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| Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 10:48 pm |
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Mike Mitrosky Administrator
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Okay, I've seen enough chain letters discussing the cause of our economic woes, and they're all incorrect, so I figured it was time to write one that addressed the real issues. I've written this in plain English and have taken out any technical mumbo-jumbo so people will be able to understand it clearly. So, even though I will be leaving out some details everything in this message will be fundamentally true. You cant even buy ONE gallon of gasoline with it. If we used gold or silver money, the gov't would be stopped from stealing our purchasing power through inflation. Let's take a look at how our $100 Bill is supposed to look. Unlike "Notes" which are not real money, "Certificates" are indeed real money because they are redeemable for the actual gold or silver at any time.
PART IV - Why Does Our Government Do This? Earlier, I told you I would explain why the government does this. And the answer is because it makes it easier for politicians to get re-elected. Under our Constitution and a sound money system like a gold standard, the government would have to tax the citizens with what's called a direct tax. Let's say the government wants to spend money on some programs and it's going to cost $300 Billion more than they are going to take in, in revenue. That means they are going to run a deficit of $300 Billion. With roughly 300 million citizens in America that results in a cost of $1,000 per man, woman and child. So now you get a knock on your door from a tax collector and are told that your family of 4 will have to immediately pay the government $4,000 in a direct tax so the government can spend money on these programs. What would you do? You would call up your congressman and bitch. You would tell him that if he doesn't fix the problem he will be out of a job. style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"You would take an active role in politics, and that's the last thing politicians want. They just want to get re-elected without all the hassle. So instead of taxing you honestly, they purchase money from the federal reserve, make our national debt go up, and devalue our money through inflation. And since the effects of inflation are delayed anywhere from between 6 months to 2 years, by the time gasoline or food prices go up, it can be blamed on war, greedy arabs, or bad weather, and the politician [and federal reserve] can escape the blame, even though they are the ones responsible. So the next time you hear that oil prices are higher because of a hurricane; remember it's not true.
PART V - How Do We Fix The Economy? We got into this mess because we over spent, over borrowed, and over consumed. So we need to do the opposite, which is save our money, pay back debt, and not consume as much. But wait, I hear some of you say consumption is good for the economy. The nightly news tells us that the American economy is 2/3 driven by consumer spending. However, that is just another fallacy. Production is the true measure of an economy not consumption. Anybody can eat an ear of corn, but before you can eat the corn, somebody had to grow it. Anybody can buy a new pair of jeans, but before you can buy them, somebody had to make the jeans. Somebody always has to produce before some other person can consume. And saving and spending work the same way. You have to earn and save your money before you can buy things. Here are two "fancy" economic terms and my common sense definitions for each. You should make sure you understand these because you will hear them more as the economy worsens: Keynesian Economics: Economic theory that basically says, "Spend all the money you have. When you run out of money, borrow all you can and spend that too. When nobody will loan you anymore money, just print the money and keep spending." This is the policy our government follows. The gov't spent all our money, borrowed all we can from other countries, so now the final resort is printing even more money (and paying the federal reserve even more) Austrian Economics: Economic theory that basically says, "If you want to buy something, make sure you have the money first. If you don't have the money then save up your money, and when you have enough, buy what you want. Pay your credit card balances in full every month and only go into debt if it's an emergency.
The Solution: We need to let the free market function. Let the depression happen. If we let it happen, it will be over in about a year. If we drag it out with spending plan after spending plan the depression will last for 10 years or more. [Everybody has heard of the depression of 1929, but most people never hear about the depression of 1920-1921, which was actually worse. The difference was, in 1920-1921 the government didn't intervene with spending programs. Failed companies were allowed to go bankrupt, and bad debt was eliminated. After a year, the economy took off. The depression of 1929 was met with one government stimulus plan after another. The depression didn't end until after WWII, in 1946.] Not only do we, as Americans need to cut back, but we need to produce goods and export them to other countries. We need to produce goods in America again. We need to promote jobs here and stop the outsourcing of American jobs overseas. But in order to do this we need to decrease the size of government and increase personal liberty. We need to completely eradicate the Federal Reserve and Income Tax, and cut government spending by over $1.3 trillion a year. (which is how much the government collects each year from the personal and corporate income taxes). Basically, if we just follow the United States Constitution we can fix our problems. Imagine the trillion dollars collected each year from the personal income tax no longer in the hands of the government but in everybodys' hands. That's a trillion dollars more people will have and they will spend their money alot more wisely than government does. Most of the time when government spends money it goes for wasteful programs and everytime the government wants to bailout somebody they wind up just bailing out their buddies. Imagine with no more corporate income tax, how many companies would be coming back to America to open up shop here again. There would be so many companies coming here to open up shop and creating jobs, we would probably need illegal aliens to work them.
We need to bring back personal Liberty. That can be best summed up as you should have the right to keep 100% of the fruit of your labors (no income tax) and spend your money anyway you want. After all, it's your money. But with Liberty comes responsibility. If you get a paycheck on Friday and spend it all foolishly on Saturday, you can't run to the government because you have no money for food for the rest of the week. You instead will have to turn to your family, friends, and religious leaders or charity to help you. Eventually, you will learn to be responsible. In turn society benefits because the more responsible and productive our people are the better off the country will be. And as an added bonus there will be less idiots out there trying to sue McDonalds for making them fat or burning them with "Hot" coffee. "The Creature From Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin. You can download a complete audio mp3 of this book at the link: http://www.spielbauer.com/JekyllDownload.htm, burn it on a CD and after 1 hour you will know everything about the federal reserve that the government doesn't want you to know. "Money, Banking, and the Federal Reserve" - 42 minute video. Complete history of money and banking. The first 7 minutes or so is reminscient of a high school educational video, but after that it gets very interesting. Watch it here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZM58dulPE Learn more about "Austrian Economics" at the Ludwig Von Mises Institute. Plenty of free mp3 downloads from various economists at http://www.mises.org You can also Google or YouTube people like: "Ron Paul", "Peter Schiff", and "Jim Rogers", to get an honest evaluation of the economy and how it relates to current events. Tune into http://freedomwatchonfox.com/ every Wednesday at 2pm Eastern Time to watch Judge Andrew Napolitano's internet program "Freedom Watch" where he always has new guests who explain the real deal within our government. And sometimes it helps to talk to somebody who already understands these things. If you ever have any questions feel free to visit http://www.ronpaulforums.com. Most people at the forums are familiar with all the facts in this email and can probably help you answer any questions you might have.
And don't forget to read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence every now and then to give yourself a refresher course on Liberty. If you've never read either, then there is no time like the present to start. You'll learn a lot from these truthful and wise documents.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 02:03 am |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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All I've got to say to you Mr. Mitrosky is: BRAVO! Great post, easy to understand. I do remember once having some "Silver Certificates" and then the government required that we turn them all in. I think that was back in the 70's. PS: Just found this on Lucianne, cartoon of the day that actually speaks to this topic quite well! Check it out! ![]()
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| Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 02:27 am |
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Mike Mitrosky Administrator
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I sent one to you and Yogi in your email boxes. The post wasnt intended for msg boards, but I figured wth. So you can see there are some formatting issues. but you get the jist.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 02:28 am |
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Mike Mitrosky Administrator
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Neo wrote: All I've got to say to you Mr. Mitrosky is: BRAVO! The little guy drawing on the sign looks like Trotsky!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 02:58 am |
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YOGI Member
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MM...Is there anything you find restrictive about RON PAUL's promotion...as a first step...support of his FEDERAL RESERVE TRANSPARENCY ACT...aka H.R. 1207, for which he has gained nearly 50 co-sponsors? I took a peek at your attempts to educate BioHazard on PP...I'm rooting fer ya, but hope he takes the time to educate himself about money/wealth/worth/value/inflation/etc...
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| Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 03:10 am |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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YOGI wrote:
Good luck with THAT one!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 03:14 am |
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Mike Mitrosky Administrator
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YOGI wrote: MM...Is there anything you find restrictive about RON PAUL's promotion...as a first step...support of his FEDERAL RESERVE TRANSPARENCY ACT...aka H.R. 1207, for which he has gained nearly 50 co-sponsors? I havent read thru HR 1207.. But I was watching Dr. Paul's synopsis of what he feels will happen with the passage of that bill and its great. He feels that once the fed is legally obligated to show their books and come clean, that there will be so much bullshit exposed that the people will clamor to shut down the fed. I hope he's right. Andrew Jackson had to go to the people back in 1832.. And he didnt have the internet.. In a fashion Ron Paul has got an easy way to distribute Lliberty and truth. Yeah I dont understand Bio.. He's pretty cool and all, but something about gold money just rubs him the wrong way.. shrug.. I cant waste my time on one individual person.. If he doesnt understand or agree, so be it. Id rather post a msg on a board where 10,000 people can learn every day, than 3 people showing up at PP.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13th, 2009 05:34 am |
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Mike Mitrosky Administrator
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Can anybody view this thread at LeMetropole Cafe? http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/chien_du_cafe.cfm?pid=7741 ok, evidently you cant view it if you havent signed up at least on as a free trial. oh well.. I did the signup thing just to see.. glad its there. wish it was on a free site to link to though
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13th, 2009 06:07 am |
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YOGI Member
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MM...What's the synopsis of the thread?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 13th, 2009 01:46 pm |
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Mike Mitrosky Administrator
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YOGI wrote: MM...What's the synopsis of the thread? Well its not a thread there, its a published article. I never heard of that place before and it cost $199/year to be a member.. But the guy from RPFs who knows Bill Murphy told me its getting a lot of attention there. The people over at http://www.goldismoney.com love it. One guy printed out copies for his kids and made them read it. Heres the thread if youre interestee: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=366028
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| Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 04:24 am |
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Neo wrote: All I've got to say to you Mr. Mitrosky is: BRAVO! 75 years later...the collectivist slime are still up to the same mischief? Who wudda thot???
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| Posted: Mon Jul 27th, 2009 06:19 am |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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YOGI wrote: Neo wrote:All I've got to say to you Mr. Mitrosky is: BRAVO! Uhhhhhh........me and the dude that drew the cartoon (for starters)?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31st, 2009 10:53 pm |
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OMNT Moderator
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Mikey got some stuff? I don't think so Me and Helen are going up to Door County this fall. We gonna eat and drink our way through it. Ever taste the prime rib at the Hilltop? When she's asleep I'm gonna jump on her backside and fuck her like's she's never been fucked before. Her teeth grit when she gets fucked. Can't say I don't love looking at that
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| Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2009 06:58 am |
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Video at 11:00?
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| Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2009 06:08 pm |
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eeeeeeeeehahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. If the Bears beat the Pack that night. We try and time our visits to co-incide. Aint no Bret Favre no more now some Jay Cutler. We'll see whats gonna take place
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| Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2009 06:18 pm |
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I got a boner for Brett Favre. But after all he's old for the sport he's in. the fact that he's old is in direct relation ship with my attraction to him. He could probably still make a diference in the NFL Old guys still got it goin on. Which brings me to my next point. Neo you are self important blowhard, Uneducated you think just because have the ability to read makes you an expert on things you have no clue about touche
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| Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2009 04:08 am |
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Mike Mitrosky Administrator
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stay on topic old man
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| Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 03:59 am |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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Mike Mitrosky wrote: stay on topic old man From your lips (or in this case technically, your fingers) to God's ears! Good luck with that! PS This thread is rated five ***** because when you remove the inane comments by some (ahem...moi and others), the basic core of the thread which was posted by Mikey was spot on and informative. Bravo!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2009 11:16 pm |
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Mike Mitrosky wrote: stay on topic old manWhat's the topic young fool. Oh yea, Some obscure paranoid BS that no one cares about concerning your questionable theory of the creation of money. In plain english here's the problem with the economy: People who thought their britches were bigger than what their ass could fit into. It's as simple as that. Greedy jackasses who bought mortgages that were more than they could chew, greedy lenders who knew that the jackasses would not read the fine print. Greedy medical industry players. Do I have to go on? Ya know I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are smart enough to figure that one out. Right now I'm too godam tired to spell that one out for you. I have faith in you. You're not as dumb as I think you are. You know what I'm sayin.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2009 11:27 pm |
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Posts like the one Mikey put up are just oblivious and undocumented references to the big picture. Shit like he alledges has been going on for millenia if it has been going on at all. Hey Mikey, get human. Stop being an obscure dweeb. Look at the big picture. that's how history will look at it. History won't give a crap if you found an errant thread in the dollar.
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