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 Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 01:41 am
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YOGI wrote: Neo wrote: YOGI wrote: Chuck wrote: Neo wrote: Chuck wrote: Neo wrote: Chuck wrote: Neo wrote: Chuck wrote: Rebdoomaker wrote: Is it just me, or has the media been...rather kind too kind for John Edwrds?
It seems that if Mr. Edwards went on an escapade with another woman and cheated on his wife...who has cancer..looks into the camera on ABC and tells the whole world that he never had an affair.

Yet, when Mark Sanford A REPUBLICAN may I add, had an affair with a woman in Argentina He gets GRILLED by the media, but not only that, he publicly apoligized, and went the whole 9 yards, but yet he still gets grilled.

If you can say this isn't a double standard with a straight face then you ought be slapped. TWICE.

Edwards isn't a politician any more.  Not exactly the same thing.


So you'd like to think.  It IS the same thing because the affairs and disturbing actions of a Democrat are NEVER discussed by the MSM.  They just refuse to report it and when forced to (as in the case of Kennedy's obituary) will just gloss over the negative stuff like say leaving a young woman to die of asphyxiation in a car, alone, cold, scared, because he was concerned how it might effect his public career.

Funny, there's a republican molesting a boy or cheating on his wife every other week, but the only Democrat you can come up with to criticize is Kennedy who let a girl die 25 years ago.  

Perhaps if the Republicans didn't try to claim to be the party of morals and family values it wouldn't be such a big deal when they got caught sucking dick.

Actually, I CAN come up with lots and lots more just shifting through the Kennedy Clan by it's lonesome.  The point remains that those scandals are quietly swept under the rug while GOP scandals are front page news for weeks on end.

That's curious as well.  I mean, it seems the only people who bring up scandals on this website are the conservatives.  I really couldn't care less what people do in their private lives, including who or what they fuck. 


IF that were true, you'd have ignored the topic.


All I did was point out how the topic poster was wrong in his false equivalency.  Now if you had pointed out a democrat who recently also got caught fucking his wife in argentina after campaigning against Bill Clintons own infidelity, but the media wasn't paying attention too him, then you might have had a point.

But like I said earlier, Democrats aren't the ones who try and play the morals and family values ticket, so its still a bit different.

Chuck...But Democrats have always been held to a much lower moral standard than Republicans!

WTF R U babbling about here anyway???

Is that a "rhetorical question" Mr. YOGI? WTF?:"> :whatever: :wink:

HELLNO, NEO!!!  It's da recognition that ya jes GOTTA break loose from this phony mindset of left vs right/democrat vs republican/liberal vs conservative!!!  Face it, NEO...it's a simple battle between liberty-loving-Folks N' phouchin' COLLECTIVISTS...especially the phouchin' REDS!  Those phouchers are always ready n' available for the use of COLLECTIVISTS!  They are their MUSCLE...always have been...


Ahem: Name me someone who is a Conservative Republican (or Independent) that is or ever has been of a "collectivist" mindset?

Good luck with that.

It's the Left, the far-left that make up the Democrat party and who believe in that form of governance and society so it IS a right v left battle to win the hearts and minds or risk perishing.

What Obama is attempting to do to this nation, is the largest move by a president in terms of a power grab, since FDR.  It has been lightening fast (albeit at times clumsy) and it has the full backing of those in position to assist it and to manifest it.

I just listened to Obama's speech.  Waiting for the GOP response.  Great speech, he delivers almost as good as Slick Willie (but not quite).  Pure regurgitated propaganda that we've all already heard or read.  He is STILL denying the fact that you lose you health care if you leave / lose your job, start a company, whatever.  In that case (according to the bill) you have to opt in to this Federal program. It's IN THE DAMN BILL! Did he READ IT? If he had, he'd know that under the Baucus bill (D) Montana, you will be fined from $900-$3800 if you don't have the mandatory insurance and then will be forcibly and automatically enrolled in ObamaCare. Or is it KennedyCare, or is it Kennedy/ObamaCare, or is it Obama/KenneydyCare? I'm losing track (alas, no scorecard provided for THIS Administration that is long enough).

Seems it's a case of "not so much".

BTW, this ISN'T Obama's bill, it's been written by FIVE Committee's with differing things in it so they just threw all of them into a bowl and came up with this MONSTROSITY!

Well, elections have consequences......sigh.........  



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Neo wrote: Interesting.........

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/06/25/sex-scandals-through-the-years-both-parties-even.aspx

Posted Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:54 PM

Sex Scandals Through the Years: Both Parties Even

by Katie Connolly

Mark Sanford's unexpected and emotional revelation of an affair yesterday has caused much hand-wringing about the future of a seemingly scandal-plagued GOP. Critics are quick to point out that the party espousing "family" values seems to be having some difficulty getting its representatives to live accordingly. But here at the Gaggle, our memories are a little longer. We recall the days, not so long ago, when it seemed as though Democrats were the ones having trouble keeping their pants on. So we tasked our wonderful intern Aku Ammah-Tagoe to tally up who's been doing what to whom since the Wayne Hays scandal of 1976. My penchant for PowerPoint graphs once again proved irresistible, so I turned the results into graphic form. (Please note, this is not an entirely scientific analysis. Politicians are grouped by year, according to when the affair/scandal was exposed.)



One last thing to note is that just one female politician made the list: Helen Chenoweth, who admitted in 1998 to having an eight-year affair with a rancher in her home state of Idaho during the 1980s. Ironically (or maybe hypocritcally), Chenoweth was a vocal critic of President Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal. So that is one out of 53, or 1.9%. Yes there are fewer women in politics overall, but this figure is a significantly smaller proportion than that. Maybe the solution to the political distraction and damage of sex scandals is simply to elect more women.

Aku's full list is after the jump. If we've missed anyone, please let us know in the comments and we'll update the graph.

Democrats:
1.    Wayne Hays (1976): Affair with secretary (one of the first major sex scandals)
2.    Allan Howe (1976): Solicited sex with two prostitutes (both of whom were undercover cops)
3.    John Young (1976): Staffer alleged sexual harrassment
4.    Fred Richmond (1978): Charged with soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy.
5.    Gerry Studds (1983): Reprimanded for having sex with a male teenage House page
6.    Gary Hart (1988): Affair with model Donna Rice.
7.    Barney Frank (1989): Affair with male prostitute, who also conducted business in Frank's home.
8.    Chuck Robb (1991): Admitted to receiving a nude massage from a former Miss Virginia.
9.    Brock Adams (1992): Eight women accused him of sexual harassment, abuse, and rape.
10.    Mel Reynolds (1994): Sexual relationship with 16-year-old campaign volunteer.
11.    Bill Clinton (1998): Affair with intern Monica Lewinsky.
12.    Gary Condit (2001): Affair with (murdered) intern Chandra Levy.
13.    Paul Patton (2002): Affair with nursing home operator; when the affair ended the state of Kentucky filed numerous violations against her business.
14.    Bob Wise (2003): Affair with a state government staffer
15.    Jim McGreevey (2004): Resigned as NJ governor after admitting that he is "a gay American"
16.    Neil Goldschmidt (2004): Admitted to having a relationship with a 14-year-old girl in the 1970s.
17.    Roosevelt Dobbins (2005): Congressman form Arkansas, pleaded guilty to fondling a 16-year-old.
18.    Gavin Newsom (2007): Affair with the wife of a top aide.
19.    Antonio Villaraigosa (2007): Affair with a television reporter.
20.    Tim Mahoney (2008): Admitted to multiple affairs.
21.    Eliot Spitzer (2008): Involved in prostitution scandal.
22.    Paul Morrison (2008): Affair with administrative staffer while Attorney General of Kansas, pressured her to reveal information about Kansas D.A.
23.    Marc Dann (2008): Attorney General of Ohio, had an affair with a staffer.
24.    David Paterson (2008): Admitted that both he and his wife had extramarital affairs
25.    John Edwards (2008): Had an affair with a campaign employee while running for President.
26.    Kwame Kilpatrick (2008): Text messaging sex scandal
27.    Sam Adams (2009): Portland, OR mayor lied about relationship with 18-year-old male intern.
TALLY: 27

Republicans:
1.    Tom Evans (1980): Along with other politicians, accused of being involved with lobbyist/former Playboy model Paula Parkinson.
2.    Bob Bauman (1980): Solicited sex from a 16-year-old boy
3.    Jon Hinson (1980): Caught attempting to have oral sex in a men's House restroom.
4.    John G. Schmitz (1982): Had an affair that led to an out-of-wedlock child.
5.    Dan Crane (1983): Reprimanded for having sex with a teenage House page.
6.   (Buz Lukens (1989): Spent time in jail after having sex with a 16-year-old girl.
7.    Jon Grunseth (1990): Swam nude with group of 13-year-old girls; suspended gubernatorial run.
8.    Ken Calvert (1993): Arrested while soliciting a prostitute.
9.    Bob Packwood (1995): Resigned from Senate amid allegations of sexual harassment and abuse.
10.    Bob Livingston (1998): Admitted to multiple extramarital affairs.
11.    Helen Chenoweth-Hage (1998): Admitted to a six year affair with a married rancher in her home state of Idaho
12.    Henry Hyde (1998): Admitted he'd had an affair many years prior
13.    Rudy Giuliani (2002): Ex-wife Donna Hanover accused him of "notorious adultery"; he's now married to Judith Nathan, his girlfriend at the time.
14.    Steve LaTourette (2003): Accused of affair with staffer, who he later married.
15.    Jack Ryan (2004): Former wife Jeri claimed he took her to sex clubs and pressured her to have sex in public.
16.    James West (2005): Removed as mayor of Spokane, WA after an gay Internet sex scandal.
17.    Don Sherwood (2006): Affair with 29-year-old woman while he was a PA congressman.
18.    Mark Foley (2006): Involved in a texting scandal with male House pages
19.    Bob Allen (2007): Solicited oral sex from a male undercover cop.
20.    Newt Gingrich (2007):Acknowledged having an affair in the 1990s
21.    Charles Boutin (2007): Resigned from MD Public Service Comission after email exchanges with a prostitute surfaced.
22.    David Vitter (2007): Part of the DC Madam scandal
23.    Larry Craig (2007): Bathroom sex solicitation scandal.
24.    Vito Fossella (2008): Affair with a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel.
25.    John Ensign (2009): Admitted to having an affair with a married staffer.
26.    Mark Sanford (2009): Affair with a woman in Argentina.
TALLY: 26


Comment: Well, since it's about a tie I guess we can assume that it's the Democrats that are truly the "Saints".  Remind me again when the Saints won the Super Bowl? Oh yeah......the Democrats now justify everything under the "WE WON" banner.

My bad.

Isn't interesting how it's been trending since the 00's amigo? Kind of shoots a hole in your theory old chap! Hmmmmmmmmmm?:Hiya!:


 



Still awaiting Mr. "Chuck's" take on the graph above (provided to the membership by the good folks at "Tex's Barbecue Steakhouse"! They never "steer" ya wrong!) 



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Rebdoomaker wrote: Is it just me, or has the media been...rather kind too kind for John Edwrds?
It seems that if Mr. Edwards went on an escapade with another woman and cheated on his wife...who has cancer..looks into the camera on ABC and tells the whole world that he never had an affair.

Yet, when Mark Sanford A REPUBLICAN may I add, had an affair with a woman in Argentina He gets GRILLED by the media, but not only that, he publicly apoligized, and went the whole 9 yards, but yet he still gets grilled.

If you can say this isn't a double standard with a straight face then you ought be slapped. TWICE.
Republican or Democrat they're all assholes.  You can't be an alpha male without venturing into the world of immorality.  This has been happening since the days of Charlemagne



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OMNT wrote: Rebdoomaker wrote: Is it just me, or has the media been...rather kind too kind for John Edwrds?
It seems that if Mr. Edwards went on an escapade with another woman and cheated on his wife...who has cancer..looks into the camera on ABC and tells the whole world that he never had an affair.

Yet, when Mark Sanford A REPUBLICAN may I add, had an affair with a woman in Argentina He gets GRILLED by the media, but not only that, he publicly apoligized, and went the whole 9 yards, but yet he still gets grilled.

If you can say this isn't a double standard with a straight face then you ought be slapped. TWICE.
Republican or Democrat they're all assholes.  You can't be an alpha male without venturing into the world of immorality.  This has been happening since the days of Charlemagne

Yes you can and there really isn't an excuse for it, especially no excuse for lying about it after you've been caught.  That said, I agree with you in that they're all assholes that do such things regardless of party affiliation. 



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