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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 05:58 am |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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![]() REMEMBER! Eight years and many still don't get it September 11, 2009 Historical moments, frozen and encapsulated in each individual's memory, sometimes define whole generations. These moments spark familiar "where-were-you-when..." conversation starters that mysteriously have the power to weld otherwise quite disparate people into a cohesive voice. My own generation had had three of them before we even reached adulthood. JFK, MLK and RFK. That trio of assassinations taught me and so many others the unforgettable lessons about the fragility of life and how easily the illusion of worldly security can be shattered in a single instant. But nothing -- absolutely nothing -- had ever prepared me for the Richter-Scale-10 shift in my worldview that occurred in the months following September 11, 2001. While true heroes of vast variety were still shifting through rubble at Ground Zero, attempting to free those who remained trapped and trying to identify bodies for terrified loved ones, I went to my library and checked out a copy of the Koran and two non-apologetic biographies of Mohamed. When people yell, "Allah is great," as they murder thousands of civilians, it would seem essential to any civilization, under such attack, to know why these enemies fervently believe that eternal paradise and 72 forever-nubile virgins will be their certain reward. No concept could possibly be more foreign to the modern Western mindset. Reward for such obvious evil flies in the face of our Judeo/Christian morality. The now-constantly repeated mantra, "Islam is a religion of peace," rings hollow amidst the worldwide actions of Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood and all the other Islamist terror armies. During the presidential campaign, when Charlie Gibson asked Sarah Palin (rather condescendingly, I thought) whether she believed we were fighting a holy war, he had the whole situation inside-out. It really doesn't matter one whit whether we Americans think of it as a holy war. What matters is that the Islamists do indeed believe -- fervently unto death -- that they are fighting a holy war. Do our liberal media elites and even President Obama believe that merely because we've decided to stop calling it a war, it is no longer a war? That the Islamists have decided to stop fighting simply because we have signaled our intention to retreat? Our media elites and our new President need to read the Koran and stop taking the word of CAIR. Or, they could merely take a careful look at history's timeline after the emergence of Mohamed in the 7th Century. If they do, they'll see that Islam, the political ideology that masquerades as a religion, has been a marauding beastly force, which has waged war, and risen and fallen in power over the entire 14 Centuries of its existence. They might take note of the destructive nature of the beast, which only seems to patiently await its momentous opportunities for resurgence. They might, at last, see the clearly defensive nature of the Crusades that sought to stop the same Islamic terror in the 11th Century. They might understand Thomas Jefferson's plight with the Muslim Barbary Pirates of his own Century. And they might be compelled to acknowledge the waiting, patient nature of Islam, as after the Ottomans were stopped and then dissipated by choosing the wrong side in WWI, Jihad may have seemed dormant, and even more dormant still as the Arab Muslims again picked the wrong side in WWII. But as soon as feckless Jimmy Carter ignored the true nature of Islamic fundamentalism in his rush to rid Iran of her Shah, worldwide Jihad resumed as though it had merely been out to lunch for a while. At the very least, folks should by now understand the real problem at the heart of Israel's quest for peaceful coexistence with the Muslims. The problem is embedded in the very nature of Islam. Muslims see peace differently than we do. When we stop all objections to the worldwide caliphate under their tyrannical control, then there will be peace. Yes, it took me about a year after those planes hit at Ground Zero to get a grip on the different landscape beneath our American feet. But the scariest thing today, eight years removed, is that our national defense is in the hands of folks who don't seem to have even one iota of understanding of how or why it happened. What's even worse is that they seem not to care. So, while most Americans remember and commemorate our dead and all of those who have fought and died since to keep the Islamic-terrorist beast at bay, our President and those who elected him will go their merry way and chant, "Islam is a religion of peace." How disturbingly dimwitted. Comment: Dimwitted is the card carrying foundation of Liberalism.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 06:14 am |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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Here's MORE on this, wont' bother to post it, you guys click on the link if you want some more information. I won't even get INTO the latest A.C.O.R.N. scandal. Remember, this is an organisation that is run by George Soros's, the guy that funds MoveOn.corn and Code Pink, Cindy Shithead, and many other farleft-wing factions. For those of you that thought that GWB was Satan, I suggest you look into Obama and the people behind him. IT will scare THE HELL out of you if you have a brain cell. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/911_the_desecration.html
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 06:24 am |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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Gosh.........I "almost" forgot.....latest news I've read is that "The Won/One" is planning on sending more than 60,000 MORE troops to Afghanistan. WHERE OH WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE AGAINST THIS(so called by the Libs) " ILLEGAL" WAR NOW THAT WE HAVE A DEMOCRAT IN THE WH, ALONG WITH A HOR /SENATE CHOCK FULL OF MAJORITIES? Cuzzzzzzzzz........Liar liar, pants on fire....OBama! Where was the coverage of Shitty Sheehan at Martha's Vineyard with her "war protest"? Answer: The Libs at the far-left MSM didn't find it worth covering now that THEIR guy is in charge. Many MORE young Americans are being killed, yet no BIG STORIES FROM THE NYTimes? Boston GLOBE, Chicago TRIBUNE, L.A. TIMES, etc...et al..... Can we say "hypocrites"? Liberals are idiots, mentally disturbed, it's a terminal thing.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 06:28 am |
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Hey "Chuck"..........look at the picture of people "diving" to their deaths because they didn't want to end up like a steak on a barbecue. Then tell me about forgetting that and making that attack into a "Communist Holiday" of "inclusion and service". Quite telling and quite sickening.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 02:31 pm |
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Neo wrote: Liberals are idiots, mentally disturbed, it's a terminal thing. ![]() Here's a car driven by a local major-league Liberal in August '07. I saw it again yesterday at the MiniMart and now it also has an Obama/Biden bumpersticker opposite "End the War" and above the sticker for DeFazio, our local far Left Liberal member of the House of Reprehensibles. I sat there in the parking lot waiting for the dumb hobag to come out so I could give her my opinion of her politics...but after a few minutes I said to hell with her and drove away. There'll be another chance.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 02:59 pm |
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This is what we get for making Israel America II. Or rather Israel is making us America II. 9/11 was preventable since it was a false flag operation. And I'll remember that day, no more than I would any other day. And why should I have to remember the dead? They certainly don't seem to remember me. And if they do, then I'm sure they too understand, that holding on to the past is foolish. For all we have is today. So make it good. And we should live to make tomorrow just the same. Always strive for excellence in everything you do. This is True Conservatism. This is how Whites have always lived. This is our true nature. This is what God expects. This is what Common Sense demands. This is our destiny. This is our fate. Where ours is the fate of all the world.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 11:50 pm |
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Neo Head Loon - Original M.A.I.M.
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Chuck wrote: Neo wrote:Gosh.........I "almost" forgot.....latest news I've read is that "The Won/One" is planning on sending more than 60,000 MORE troops to Afghanistan. "We" lied? Really? Hmmmm.......lemme see here....gosh, we must have had a LOT of company from the Democrats to pull that one off! Here, lemme show you what I mean by that! "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998 "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. - Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.......methinks "Chuck" has a very selective memory or is just an outright propagandist/liar. Also, I read today where the Democrats are telling Obama to come up with a stra-te-gery to win the war or he will face opposition for his escapades in Afghanistan by his own party. Won't THAT be fun to watch!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11th, 2009 11:58 pm |
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Chuck wrote: Neo wrote:Hey "Chuck"..........look at the picture of people "diving" to their deaths because they didn't want to end up like a steak on a barbecue. Well, lemme see.....I didn't know that objecting to the perversion of a day of remembrance for the act of terrorism perpetrated upon these United States and Americans was being "ignorant" nor bitching, moaning, and acting like a child. Nope, I think that better describes people such as yourself. See, I look at that picture and I vividly remember that day and the horror and sick feeling I got in my stomach when I saw those people jump to their deaths, when I saw those buildings fall killing those that were still trapped along with the 1st Responders who perished while trying to evacuate them and save their lives. I'm not like a Liberal, I don't blame America for the attack or make silly excuses for those Islamic bastards and I certainly don't think that we should use the events of that day to further some maggots agenda. Apparently you have nothing to say about that photograph of your fellow Americans plummeting to their deaths because you don't really give a fig, nor do the people in your party. You're all too busy calling Marines murderers. Look at the picture AGAIN and think about if that was you in that building who had two choices: Burn to death or leap to your death, there aren't any OTHER options and you don't even know why this happened. You fucking Liberals are really as useless as teets on a bull. ![]()
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 12:05 am |
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GravyBoat wrote: This is what we get for making Israel America II. Or rather Israel is making us America II. Ya know G.B., as much as I find you funny at times, this isn't one of those times. That's one of your most assinine comments to date. It's fucking pathetic.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 12:09 am |
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Chuck wrote: Neo wrote: You're an idiot. Sorry, but you've proved it with that statement (as well as many other ones). There is NOTHING ridiculous about this article except in that demented little brain of yours (emphasis on little) and if you want to talk about photo ops and exploitation, you need only look at Obama & the Democrat party who even now is attempting to exploit 9/11 concurrently with their attempt to exploit the death of that drunken murderer Teddy Hic-Cup Kennedy for their power grab of our health care system.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 07:39 pm |
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Neo wrote:
Speaking of Liars, Why are the Republicans wanting to "Cut and Run" now? All of a sudden the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is something to complain about. But of course, you can't get any support from the lying neoclowns anyway, Examples: "You can support the troops but not the president." --Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) "Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years." --Joe Scarborough (R-FL) "Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?" --Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99 " President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy." --Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) "American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy." --Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) "If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy." --Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush "I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area." --Senator Trent Lott (R-MS) "I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today" --Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." --Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) Why not mention these when you are so quick to pull out your fake lists again, juan. Or is it not hypocrisy when reichthugliklans do it?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 08:07 pm |
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Never have I read such a hate filled one sided diatribe. Neo you truly are a proponent of fascism and an enemy of this country.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 08:12 pm |
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Yes Osama bin Laden is an enemy of this country. Yes he should be chased to the ends of the earth. But I think Neo has a more sinister agenda under his hat. That is the subjugation of the American people to bend to the will of the powers he so readily worships.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 11:18 pm |
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AgentOregon wrote: Neo wrote:Liberals are idiots, mentally disturbed, it's a terminal thing. AO...Caint ya catch her attention at a town hall meeting?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12th, 2009 11:42 pm |
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Chuck wrote: Neo wrote:Gosh.........I "almost" forgot.....latest news I've read is that "The Won/One" is planning on sending more than 60,000 MORE troops to Afghanistan. Chuck...Have you a youtube of my President AKA saying such during his campaign? Have you ANY idea of what his plans are after our 8 phouching years in that God-forsaken place OTHER than this nation-building bullshit that seems to be our new goal?
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13th, 2009 12:14 am |
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BIO2..How come you leave out the dates in your quotes, assholer? LOLOLOLOL!!!
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| Posted: Sun Sep 13th, 2009 12:19 am |
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OMNT wrote: Never have I read such a hate filled one sided diatribe. Neo you truly are a proponent of fascism and an enemy of this country. OMNT...Again...WTF are ya talking about? Are all those Dementocrat quotes hateful OR just lies??? Last edited on Sun Sep 13th, 2009 12:21 am by YOGI |
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