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This just in from Fox News, nothing has hit the wires / Internet yet but when it does I will post his obituary.



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Jul 17, 2009 8:32 pm US/Eastern
CBS Legend Walter Cronkite Dies At 92


'Most Trusted Man In America' Was Also One Of The Most Influential Figures In Broadcast Television History
Iconic Journalist Anchored CBS Evening News From 1962-1981, Ending Each Newscast With His Trademark, 'And That's The Way It Is'



Walter Cronkite solemnly reports that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, on Nov. 22, 1963.
Walter Cronkite, 1916-2009


NEW YORK (CBS News) ― 

Cronkite anchored the CBS News flagship broadcast from 1962 to 1981, signing off each broadcast with his trademark, "And that's the way it is..."

And for two turbulent decades – the '60s and '70s – Walter Leland Cronkite, Jr., told us the way it was when the news was good, and when it was awful:

"The flash -- apparently official: President Kennedy died at 1:00 p.m Central Standard Time -- 2 o'clock Eastern Standard Time -- some 38 minutes ago," he said, his glasses in hand, his voice cracking with emotion, in the moments after John F. Kennedy's assassination.

He had a temper – when he saw correspondent Dan Rather getting roughed up at the tumultuous 1968 Democratic National Convention, he called those trying to push Rather away "a bunch of thugs." That same year, he would share another opinion, with far greater impact, in his documentary, "Report From Vietnam."

"It is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate," he said to his viewers then.

In an interview years later, he said he was only doing his job of telling the way it is.

"I simply told people what I thought about the state of the war in Vietnam and it was that we better get out of it," he said.

When Cronkite declared the Vietnam war unwinnable, President Lyndon B. Johnson said, "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America."

In fact, polls found Cronkite the "most trusted man in America," and presidents knew it. He was even awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom from President Jimmy Carter in 1981.

It was the political conventions that thrust Cronkite into the limelight and propelled him into the "Evening News" anchor chair in 1962. His believability helped keep him there.

"We came to trust him, we came to believe him. One of the most important things that happened to television journalism was Walter Cronkite," colleague Mike Wallace said years ago.

And Cronkite certainly paved the way for the many honorable broadcast journalists who have since followed. Even Cronkite himself believed he lacked the talent seen in many personalities today.

"I don't think if I were competing today with the anchor people out there I'd get a chance of getting on the air," he once said in an interview.

He got on the air the old fashioned way. Some newspapering in Texas, then radio announcing in Kansas City, and later a UPI correspondent during World War II. He was chief correspondent reporting from the Nuremberg war crimes trials and joined the infant CBS Television News operation in 1950.

For 65 years, wife Betsy, whom he married in 1940, was by his side. They had worked together at KCMO in Kansas City. He called her "the most gorgeous creature I'd ever seen in my life." She died in March of 2005 at the age of 89.

Many have wondered how his signature closing line came to be. Since the news was expanding to 30 minutes back in 1963, Cronkite thought to himself, Why couldn't I have a signature line?

"And that's the way it is, Monday, September the 2nd, 1963," was the first time he'd say those very famous words.

And that is the way it was until Cronkite signed off the "Evening News" on Friday, March 6, 1981. He had been forced to retire by a CBS policy, no longer in effect, that required retirement at age 65.

He did other television after that, along with some writing, and he even contributed liberal opinion online. But for most of us, Cronkite chronicled the way were, and if we believed in him, so did he in us.

"If there's anything I've learned, it is that we Americans do have a way of rising to the challenges that confront us. Just when it seems we're most divided, we suddenly show our remarkable solidarity," he once said.

CRONKITE REMEMBERED

In 2006, CBS celebrated Cronkite's 90th birthday with a primetime special in which his former colleagues and longtime friends honored his legendary career.

CBS News colleagues Don Hewitt, Dan Rather, Morley Safer and  Mike Wallace took viewers behind the headlines that Cronkite masterfully reported to reveal the professionalism, dedication and extraordinary influence of the man they knew so well.

Competitors Ted Koppel, Diane Sawyer and Barbara Walters, as well as the newest generation of anchors -- Katie Couric, Charles Gibson and Brian Williams -- spoke about the unique role Cronkite played in American culture and how he continued to influence them in the modern era of electronic journalism.

But, lest viewers think "the most trusted man in America" was one-dimensional and singularly obsessed with the news, some of Cronkite's personal friends, including actor/comedian Robin Williams, actor/director George Clooney and Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart, as well as President Bill Clinton and filmmaker Spike Lee, shared poignant personal thoughts and revealing recollections of the newsman's "other side."

Of Cronkite's unique journalistic abilities, Koppel said, "There is no way you can analyze it. You can't send it out to CSI and say, 'all right, look at the DNA of Walter Cronkite and how do we replace that or replicate it?'"

On his memorable live report of President John F. Kennedy's death on Nov. 22, 1963:"He had to take a moment; take off his glasses. When that happens, you realize a whole nation can't speak," said Robin Williams.

Said Couric: "He handled it as a human being first and an anchorman second, and I think in times like that, that's what you want."

"It was a very frightened country. Walter became not only everybody's anchorman, he was everybody's minister, priest and rabbi," said Hewitt. "He calmed America down."

"I think that the day President Kennedy died was the day that television news as we now know it was born, for all intents and purposes," said Dan Rather. "And Walter Cronkite was a very important part of making it so."

Of Cronkite's coverage of the civil rights movement in the 1960s, Lee said, "Walter was one of the few people in power positions that got behind that and pushed the story. In Birmingham, Ala., 1963...four little girls were murdered...The fact that it was four little girls, the fact that it took place in a church, on a Sunday -- that really shook people up. America needed to look deep into itself, and this is one of the pivotal moments."

On Cronkite's coverage of the Vietnam War: "It pained him to have to say what he thought about Vietnam, but he also understood how isolating the White House can be and how people can get to the point where they don't hear discordant voices," said Clinton. "And he thought he knew what the truth was, and he thought he had an obligation to tell it."

"He changed the history of the war overnight because it was, for that time period in general, a young person's protest. And it became everyone else's wrong war at that point," Clooney said.

Said Safer: "It is...remarkable that one anchorman, one reporter, one journalist...could really affect the political fate of the country... But they didn't call Walter the most trusted man in America for nothing."

Of Cronkite's coverage of the space program and man landing on the moon, Couric said, "Here was something everyone could rally around, and I think Walter Cronkite's embrace of that program gave people American heroes at a time when they really needed them."

And of Cronkite's "other" side?

"I invited him to a Grateful Dead show...and it was Walter Cronkite at the soundboard at Madison Square Garden," said drummer Mickey Hart. "And he came back at halftime and I introduced him to Jerry [Garcia], and he said, 'I was thinking of a thousand reasons to leave early. But I can't think of one now!'"

"The best time to be with Walter is when he...was with [his late wife] Betsy," remembered Robin Williams. "You know and one cocktail...because they both get kind of wonderfully salty and funny."

Williams added, "To see him conducting the orchestra...that was a great thing to see. That was another skill he had [that] I didn't know [about]. If, all of a sudden, he put on skates at that moment, I'd go, 'Okay, a double axel.' [In Cronkite's voice:] 'I think I can do it. It seems appropriate.'"

Clinton and Clooney, perhaps, put it best. Clinton said, "He's a truly wonderful man, an old-fashioned gentleman, but a ferocious, ferocious citizen. He cares about things still."

Clooney added, "Every once in awhile, you get someone who is the exact right person at the exact right moment. In fact, I think we were just very lucky that it happened to be him."

CBS 2's John Slattery contributed to this report.






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"Most trusted man in America"? Until '68 when he and his underling Dan Rabid did their hatchet job in Nam, I probably would agree.

RIP, WK...

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YOGI wrote: "Most trusted man in America"? Until '68 when he and his underling Dan Rabid did their hatchet job in Nam, I probably would agree.

RIP, WK...


Well, I wasn't going to say that but you're right. He alone was the most central figure in the turn of events after the Tet Offensive when he lied and said we had gotten our ass's kicked when the truth of  the matter was that we had kicked THEIR ass's.  He soured the war in Americans minds and started the road to defeat. When Johnson heard him say that, he said (and I paraphrase) "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America".  It was the beginning of the end and it's a shameful part of our history.

Like Dan Blather, he was a left wing lieing piece of crap and only God knows how many troops died because of his treachery.  He's no better than Jane Fonda in my book and I have to say "fuck him and good riddance to bad rubbish, I hope he burns in hell for his sedition".

 



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Do you remember where you were during the first moon landing? I was up in a Wisconsin cabin on a fishing lake with my dad and my brothers listening to the radio. Walter Cronkite had a feed into the radio station

It was late it was dark, maybe 9pm. That's when the 'one step for man" was aired. I can't remember if it was live or not. I'm guessing maybe it was not.

Anyway my mom celebrated her 45th birthday that day. I called her from the camp owner's office. She sounded a little drunk. Can't blame her. My dad made a lot of people wanna get drunk. But he taught me how to fish



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Hey Neo how old were you during the Tet Offensive. 8? I remember listening to the tv news in 68. they always said something like 10 Americans dead, 2 thousand Viet Cong dead.

Who are you gonna believe?

Here's the thing, Neo. You live in a country (let's call it USA) which is invaded by a bunch of assholes that have no reason for being there. Wouldn't you be pissed off too?

Don't give me no crap about the south bein "on our side" The great majority of South VietNam were helpless peasants. The jerks who people like you listented to were beaureaucratic penisheads.

But you were 8. WTF do you know?



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I went out on our dock. Below me was the catch of the day in the fish box. 3 largmoputh. Cut em up and the camp manager freezes them. Above me was a jillion stars. Up in Northern Wisconsin we didn't have the interference of human overload that erases the stars.

the moon wasn't visible. But I knew they were up there.



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OMNT wrote: Hey Neo how old were you during the Tet Offensive. 8? I remember listening to the tv news in 68. they always said something like 10 Americans dead, 2 thousand Viet Cong dead.

Who are you gonna believe?

Here's the thing, Neo. You live in a country (let's call it USA) which is invaded by a bunch of assholes that have no reason for being there. Wouldn't you be pissed off too?

Don't give me no crap about the south bein "on our side" The great majority of South VietNam were helpless peasants. The jerks who people like you listented to were beaureaucratic penisheads.

But you were 8. WTF do you know?

OMNT...WTF do you know about TET '68, ASSHOLER?  I watched Walter Crankcase's TET'68 coverage nightly, along with Dan Rabid's whenever.  Did you?  I got to Nam a couple of months after TET '69 and appreciated the decimation of the VC & NVA that TET '68 resulted in. 

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Tet was in 68 as I remembr, Yogi my draft number was 64,. I waited when I got out of college. I get real fuggin pissed off when jackasses like you think that that i was unpatriotic. My message to you and you of your ilk. Go fuck yerselves



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YOGI wrote: OMNT wrote: Hey Neo how old were you during the Tet Offensive. 8? I remember listening to the tv news in 68. they always said something like 10 Americans dead, 2 thousand Viet Cong dead.

Who are you gonna believe?

Here's the thing, Neo. You live in a country (let's call it USA) which is invaded by a bunch of assholes that have no reason for being there. Wouldn't you be pissed off too?

Don't give me no crap about the south bein "on our side" The great majority of South VietNam were helpless peasants. The jerks who people like you listented to were beaureaucratic penisheads.

But you were 8. WTF do you know?

OMNT...WTF do you know about TET '68, ASSHOLER?  I watched Walter Crankcase's TET'68 coverage nightly, along with Dan Rabid's whenever.  Did you?  I got to Nam a couple of months after TET '69 and appreciated the decimation of the VC & NVA that TET '68 resulted in. 


Mr. YOGI........why DO you waste bandwidth attempting to have discourse with a guy who thinks Cronkite was right, angelic, blah, blah, blah?  Only the leftest celebrate the life of a man who was a cancer on America, who flim-flamed so many people too ignorant at the time to understand that ole' "Uncle Walter" was nothing more than a seditionist.  Hell, like then and today, most of the numb skulls in this nation don't even know the definition of the word, let alone having a recognition of it when it's displayed (can we say Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann?).

Not to change the subject (but I will temporarily), the wife learned how to cook Cuban Croquettes which is ground chicken with clove and other spices (which must be virtually frozen to hold) that is rolled in bread crumbs after being dipped in whipped eggs ( they're made in ham as well though I don't like those) and they're AWESOME!  Tomorrow she will attempt to make "papa reyanos" which is a rolled ball of potato (like mashed) with spiced ground beef with olives (green & pit-less) in the middle and deep fried! 

Very fattening, probably high in cholesterol, but I care not.  They taste sooooooo damn good!

This from a gal I married who could burn water at the time.....life is good, my wife cooks like a damn Chef!

She made me a cake for work (for my team) that had a icing made of cool whip, vanilla pudding, and pieces of pineapple in it (the frosting) and I have people INSISTING that she make another.  A gal on my team asked me for the recipe so I just hooked her up with the wife and let them gab....funny stuff!

Anyone wanting these recipes, just let me know and I'll post them here (maybe make a new forum for cooking/baking, not a bad idea).

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You useless loudmouthed jackass. You think that simply because you served you automatically reserve some special place in American history. I got news for you shit for brains. Men are a fickle bunch, Sometimes they sign up for reasons You never dreamed of



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OMNT wrote: Tet was in 68 as I remembr, Yogi my draft number was 64,. I waited when I got out of college. I get real fuggin pissed off when jackasses like you think that that i was unpatriotic. My message to you and you of your ilk. Go fuck yerselves
OMNT...TET in Nam occurs EVERY phouching year...EARLY...on various dates...YEARLY, ASSHOLER!!!  TET '70...I was in da Bush along the Cambodian border!!!  I's THANKFUL fer whut me BRO's did to the VC n' NVA during TET '68!  You are starting to remind me o' that sick phouchin' WANNABE, BioHazard, over on dat POLITICALREDPLACE site...

ASSHOLER...How about you producing ANY phouching message I've posted calling you "UNPATRIOTIC"???  Ya caint, of couse...

 

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viet nam was a dumb fuck war. And them what supported it were dumb fucks too  Yogi I'll only give you credit for the man you are

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Neo wrote: YOGI wrote: OMNT wrote: Hey Neo how old were you during the Tet Offensive. 8? I remember listening to the tv news in 68. they always said something like 10 Americans dead, 2 thousand Viet Cong dead.

Who are you gonna believe?

Here's the thing, Neo. You live in a country (let's call it USA) which is invaded by a bunch of assholes that have no reason for being there. Wouldn't you be pissed off too?

Don't give me no crap about the south bein "on our side" The great majority of South VietNam were helpless peasants. The jerks who people like you listented to were beaureaucratic penisheads.

But you were 8. WTF do you know?

OMNT...WTF do you know about TET '68, ASSHOLER?  I watched Walter Crankcase's TET'68 coverage nightly, along with Dan Rabid's whenever.  Did you?  I got to Nam a couple of months after TET '69 and appreciated the decimation of the VC & NVA that TET '68 resulted in. 


Mr. YOGI........why DO you waste bandwidth attempting to have discourse with a guy who thinks Cronkite was right, angelic, blah, blah, blah?  Because I always believed what Dad told us about there being NO CURE for STUPID, BUT there's always HOPE for IGNORANCE...  Only the leftest celebrate the life of a man who was a cancer on America, who flim-flamed so many people too ignorant at the time to understand that ole' "Uncle Walter" was nothing more than a seditionist.  DAYUM!  I couldn't go that far!  His coverage of TET'68 was all it took to view him afterwards wif' one hell of a jaundiced eye... Hell, like then and today, most of the numb skulls in this nation don't even know the definition of the word, let alone having a recognition of it when it's displayed (can we say Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann?).  Definition o' WHUT word?

Not to change the subject (but I will temporarily), the wife learned how to cook Cuban Croquettes which is ground chicken with clove and other spices (which must be virtually frozen to hold) that is rolled in bread crumbs after being dipped in whipped eggs ( they're made in ham as well though I don't like those) and they're AWESOME!  Tomorrow she will attempt to make "papa reyanos" which is a rolled ball of potato (like mashed) with spiced ground beef with olives (green & pit-less) in the middle and deep fried! 

Very fattening, probably high in cholesterol, but I care not.  They taste sooooooo damn good!

This from a gal I married who could burn water at the time.....life is good, my wife cooks like a damn Chef!

She made me a cake for work (for my team) that had a icing made of cool whip, vanilla pudding, and pieces of pineapple in it (the frosting) and I have people INSISTING that she make another.  A gal on my team asked me for the recipe so I just hooked her up with the wife and let them gab....funny stuff!

Anyone wanting these recipes, just let me know and I'll post them here (maybe make a new forum for cooking/baking, not a bad idea).  Is she CUBAN?

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OMNT wrote: You useless loudmouthed jackass. You think that simply because you served you automatically reserve some special place in American history. I got news for you shit for brains. Men are a fickle bunch, Sometimes they sign up for reasons You never dreamed of
No, WANNABE!  I served as a Grunt in Nam with quite a "fickle bunch" of men...NONE of whom you have any standing to bow down and lick the sweat off'n their phouching BALLS, ASSHOLER!!!

Like that pathological lying-assed, piece-o'-shit, BioHazard, you are accusing me o' BS I've never done, ASSHOLER!!! 

WTF would YOUR cherry-ass even comprehend about WHY men "SIGN UP" to serve in our Military???  At least the wannabe BioHazard supposedly VOLUNTEERED...

You need to STFU about stuff ya haven't a phouchin' clue about...especially TET '68!















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OMNT wrote: viet nam was a dumb fuck war. And them what supported it were dumb fucks too  Yogi I'll only give you credit for the man you are

OMNT...Looking back 40+ years ago...I don't understand what you are saying!  I'm trying to think of one WAR that wasn't a DUMB FUCK one!!!

Didn't you tell me you were "hanging"...waiting to be drafted???  WHY do you show such animosity towards those who went to Nam???

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OMNT...This seems to be the problem with FLAMERS like you! Could you post ANY message I have ever posted in which I have claimed you are/were UNPATRIOTIC, Sport???

Mom n' Dad raised us to believe that one's INTEGRITY was seriously important! You care to PHOUCHIN' LIE about mine, ASSHOLER, I'll defend meself...

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YOGI wrote: OMNT wrote: viet nam was a dumb fuck war. And them what supported it were dumb fucks too  Yogi I'll only give you credit for the man you are

OMNT...Looking back 40+ years ago...I don't understand what you are saying!  I'm trying to think of one WAR that wasn't a DUMB FUCK one!!!

Didn't you tell me you were "hanging"...waiting to be drafted???  WHY do you show such animosity towards those who went to Nam???
You are putting words in my mouth Yogi.  Stop it.  I have no animosity for them what served only for the guvmint what sent them there.

Yea buddy I was hangin.  Waiting to be drafted.  I didn't hide.  I was up there in plain sight.  71-72.  My old man the Nixon guy even said to me he wouldn't blame me if I went to Canada.  that's how that fuckin war went.

WW2. that wasn't a dumb fuck war.  The Korean conflict  That wasn't too dumbfuck either.  All the rest of them were dumbfuck wars.  to this day



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sorry Neo I'm trying to curb my use of foul language. It ain't working too fukin good



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and that's the way it is July 24 2009

By the way it's my dad's burfday, He was born on this day in 1916



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